Why, yes... Yes I will!hmmm this should be interesting. will you be sharing the results of that confrence with us on here?
What if people in Fort Wayne started carrying rifles instead? No license needed for that, so no reason to detain and check. Exercising your rights is NOT reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
Right?
How about we all get together this summer and do that? I'd be up for that... I hate a**holes with badges (as opposed to most cops), and think this would open their eyes to what might happen if they don't stop hassling people.
So you think leaving would be a good idea if you thought the person called it in saying you was "brandishing it and pointing it at people"? I'm thinking you take off it's going to make you look like you've got something to hide. Just me but if I'm not there to defend myself then who knows what the first officer on scene is going to here. So when they get your vehicle's description and track you down they are going to think the worse or at least I would if I was LEO.
What I would do if I was in that situation, if opportunity allowed I would call 911 first if it looks like they are going to get called anyways. That way I could explain what exactly is going on. If I couldn't call first I would go back in the store buy a 40oz Mountain Dew and a Slim Jim, sit on the curb, wait, and just hope I get the LEO who isn't a Die Hard fan and knows the gun laws.
OP I'm sorry you had to go through this. I'm a OCer and I've always had proffessional run ins with LEO's. Alot of times it makes a good converstation between us.
I leave the area when thing's start to go south, if someone is mad about me having a gun then who know's if he will got get some buddies and come back to confront me again? In leaving it defuses the situation, the cop's show and I am gone, if they got my plate number and show up to my house I will tell them that they were upset about me having a gun so I left to defuse the situation and would be happy to look at the security tape with them.
If the cop's say that I should have stayed when they said they would call the cop's then well........... people say they will call the cop's all the time buy how many really do?
Maybe you should make a youtube video telling your story, might put some pressure on FWPD if enough people see it and see that your a average guy standing up for his rights, heck you might even get some donations for legal fees.
What ever happens. I respect you standing up for your rights.
"Not advisable?"
Any true freedom loving American doesn't need his rights under "advisement" by anyone.
Some people will always be scared of something. That is 100% their own problem. Some are afraid of black people, should black people stay inside, or be "advised" to wear makeup to cover their skin?
Open carry is the true expression of support of the 2A. It is our God-given right to be armed for self-defense. Open carry is a deterrent to crime, and this country would be better off if we didn't limit our own freedoms based on the whims and opinions of others who care nothing for them.
Sorry misread your post. I thought you were meaning as the guy was dialing 911 you were gonna scat. I completely agree with you. Sometimes people approach out of curiosity and then you have the few who are just out to stir the waters. I can usually tell which on just how they approach, which determines on how much I'll entertain them.
same thing happened to me i would like to discuss tis in detail with you, i have filed a claim in federal court
There is no law against carrying in a bank.
Sorry buddy your wrong. i have the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty unless the officer witnesses for himself, me committing a crime, or has sufficent witnesses to give him probable cause to believe i did. the act of carrying a gun if your lisenced is not illegal, so the first and only rthing the officer has the right to open his mouth and say to me is: can i see your LTCH?" thats it. he dont need to be asking for my drivers license or any other questions, cause if he does hes not getting an answer. they dont have the right to know where youve been or why you went there, or ask you to walk a strait line on your hands, etc. the only purpose those questions are for is for him to build a case against you!!! dont forget it. you are innocent in the beginning and they know it, so as long as you dont open your big mouth and give them probably cause for something else like ilegal spitting on the ground then you are going home that night. i cant believe all the people (criminals) on the show COPS that i see who if they would have kept their mouth shut would have never went to jail.
SIMPLE BREAKDOWN: The ONLY reason a cop ask you questions is to build a case to hand over to a prosecuter, end of story. KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT!!!
Tell you what-You get asked for your permit by a LEO responding to a call, refuse to provide an ID, stand there not talking and see how that works out for you.
Keeping your mouth shut as you say works good for the criminal element. For the law abiding with nothing to hide,bad advice.
I have thought about calling the department myself and just asking if anything is being done to make sure this does not happen again. Of course not telling them Im from this site. Curious as to if they have a official statement yet.