Mattis to step down.

[KDUBCR250]

Country is a little weaker without him...

 

[1DOWN4UP]

I wonder if this is only a smokescreen to dismiss him before a future Theranos investigation.

 

[DadSmith]

I think you will see him run for president as a Democrat someday.

 

[ghuns]

Spelling?

You spelled utopia like Scooby Doo and deleted the whole sentence.

Mattis is a socialist idealist and wants that one world socialist uropia.

You are entitled to that opinion. But make sure you don't share it in a room full of Marines.

 

[Hawkeye]

This whole thing kinda reminds me of Al Haig, for those old enough to remember.

How so?


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[ghuns]

This whole thing kinda reminds me of Al Haig...

You mean Mr. “I’m in charge here”.

 

[Larry!!!]

Sad to see him go.

 

[2A_Tom]

 

[IndianaGlock85]

Thank you for all of your great service to this country General Mattis

 

[Libertarian01]

And the race to 50 is on!

 

[Twangbanger]

America has always luvved itself some military heroes. Mattis was a well-qualified choice and seems like a great military man. As such, he was always going to have his legion of "fan-boys" in a country like ours.

But I also think that's an indicator to why Trump nominated him in the first place. Choosing Mattis bought Trump some instant credibility in a nation over-consumed with military hoo-ah. In fact, if you looked at this choice strategically, it was confirmation of the very sort of "transactional" careerist expediency Trump is criticized for in so many other areas. When first staffing up his administration, Trump was in the midst of a sxxt-storm of controversy from a town still in shock over his election. He needed at least one un-controversial choice to curry favor with the deep-state, during the two-year time period in his first term when he (like most Presidents) was going to actually have a nominal chance of getting something done.

Now that that time period is over. From now on, it will be a miserable slog characterized by divided government. For whatever negative portents this may have for his administration, it does carry the silver lining that Trump is now free from the constant daily imperative of shutting-up the cowardly, disloyal deep state media-leakers by continuing to employ someone they idolize. It's time for him to be surrounded by people whose world-view he actually agrees with. Whatever that might happen to be.

In Trump's case, I think that's people who don't believe America should perpetually occupy the role of world-saver.

Trump doesn't believe in that role for America, and he won the election. This Presidency is a test of whether American Military State (and its legion of fan-boys) is ready to confront the fact that The Eagle is not Big Brother to The World, anymore. And so far, a whole lot of people in Washington (and a decent handful on INGO) are failing that test miserably.

Paraphrasing Aerosmith, "It's a test that we got to pass." I do not necessarily like Mattis being gone. But I like what his being gone represents. The "Post-WW2 World Order" has become a rut which is holding America back. I think we need to salute people like General Mattis - give them their gold watch and their History Channel special - then move tf on.

 

[BugI02]

Any thoughts on Jim Webb as his replacement? I actually liked the guy as a potential Dem candidate (although I wouldn't vote Democratic) and his views on America's role in the world dovetail with Trump's. I'm just not sure someone who would run as a Democrat can be trusted

 

[ultra...good]

............. I'm just not sure someone who would run as a Democrat can be trusted

Only good one I ever heard of was former Sheriff of Milwaukee County, David Clarke.

 

[cce1302]

Any thoughts on Jim Webb as his replacement? I actually liked the guy as a potential Dem candidate (although I wouldn't vote Democratic) and his views on America's role in the world dovetail with Trump's. I'm just not sure someone who would run as a Democrat can be trusted

I like Webb, and I don't care much about what letter follows his name. He seems to be decent, thoughtful, and very intelligent. unfortunately, I don't think he'll get the nod.

 

[jamil]

I like Webb, and I don't care much about what letter follows his name. He seems to be decent, thoughtful, and very intelligent. unfortunately, I don't think he'll get the nod.

Not likely. He got laughed off the debate stage in the democratic primary. He’s not anti-gun enough. He’s not sufficiently socialist. He’s not an adequate social justice warrior. He hasn’t adequately, publicly, signaled his irrational hatred of Republicans. Hell. I don’t think he’s even called Trump a mother****er publicly. Ain’t nonway a white male can win a high office as a democrat unless he signals fealty to bat **** crazy progressives.

 

[cce1302]

Not likely. He got laughed off the debate stage in the democratic primary. He’s not anti-gun enough. He’s not sufficiently socialist. He’s not an adequate social justice warrior. He hasn’t adequately, publicly, signaled his irrational hatred of Republicans. Hell. I don’t think he’s even called Trump a mother****er publicly. Ain’t nonway a white male can win a high office as a democrat unless he signals fealty to bat **** crazy progressives.

I think we're talking about the Secdef position, appointed by the President, not an elected office.

 

[jamil]

I think we're talking about the Secdef position, appointed by the President, not an elected office.

I was just talking about the 2016 democratic primaries as a backdrop for what they think of Webb. I left it to you all to infer how that translates to a nomination.

So, basically, if Trump nominated Webb (probably not gonna happen), progressives will treat him as more of a traitor/outcast than a democrat. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to shame any of the few traditional democrats left who might signal a vote to confirm him.

 

[cce1302]

I was just talking about the 2016 democratic primaries as a backdrop for what they think of Webb. I left it to you all to infer how that translates to a nomination.

So, basically, if Trump nominated Webb (probably not gonna happen), progressives will treat him as more of a traitor/outcast than a democrat. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to shame any of the few traditional democrats left who might signal a vote to confirm him.

Yeah, I guess that's the disconnect. I don't think their treatment of him during the presidential election would translate to their treatment of him overall as a nominee. Sure, there would be the (loud, obnoxious) opposition, but when it came down to a vote, I think it would be fairly easy to find support for him in congress.

Unfortunately, I am afraid the entire discussion is moot, as it seems a remote chance that he would even be nominated. If it happens, I'd be glad to watch the circus with you over a beer, though it'd be difficult for us to be in the same place physically.

 

[jamil]

Yeah. The White House, for what it's worth, has said Web isn't under consideration.

 

[Trigger Time]

I'm free