Clay Pigeon
Shooter
Is it best practice to search with your weapon light as the officer in the video did?
That's been the topic of more than one conversation in the house tonight..
Is it best practice to search with your weapon light as the officer in the video did?
Is it best practice to search with your weapon light as the officer in the video did?
Can we preserve this thread for future generations that want to know the definition of an armchair quarterback?
I could see several scenarios which could cause an involuntary tightening of the entire hand. Might that put the finger on the trigger? Possibly.
Might dealing with a large dog which, contrary to what some have said, seemed pretty damned irritated to me and appeared to be trying to get out of that kennel convince someone that they may have to shoot the dog to protect themselves? I reckon it's possible.
The possibility that this officer experienced a set of circumstances which none of us has faced is pretty substantial. I'm not going to sit back, pound my chest and proclaim that I'm better than he is.
I've had my finger on the trigger plenty of times, hundreds of times and never pulled it. I've had handguns pointed at several with my finger on the trigger and never pulled it. Some are better suited to the job than others but this thread serves as a shining example of why this country is finding it difficult to recruit capable men and women for the job.
As far as the weight of a trigger is concerned, be it 3.5lbs, 5lbs, 12lbs or 100lbs if nothing pulls the trigger a Glock isn't going to go off. A 12lb does nothing but ensures that officers will struggle to put one round out of 50 on target in a stressful situation. 5lbs is perfectly acceptable and I base that off just a wee bit of experience.
Are we sure the dog didn't shoot her?
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I agree with your post except the last paragraph... Others just have wee bits of experience themselves.. I'm in the camp that you can use "struggle ", but I use well aware that one is discharging his handgun, and you don't get that with a 5 lb striker triggers..
And yes, you did pound your chest at the end of your post.
Watch the video and it’s truly amateur hour!!! If I handled my pistols like that at my range the RO would throw me out! Ouch!!!
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Yep, as you are well trained the above doesn't surprise me at all.I could see several scenarios which could cause an involuntary tightening of the entire hand. Might that put the finger on the trigger? Possibly.
Might dealing with a large dog which, contrary to what some have said, seemed pretty damned irritated to me and appeared to be trying to get out of that kennel convince someone that they may have to shoot the dog to protect themselves? I reckon it's possible.
The possibility that this officer experienced a set of circumstances which none of us has faced is pretty substantial. I'm not going to sit back, pound my chest and proclaim that I'm better than he is.
I've had my finger on the trigger plenty of times, hundreds of times and never pulled it. I've had handguns pointed at several with my finger on the trigger and never pulled it. Some are better suited to the job than others but this thread serves as a shining example of why this country is finding it difficult to recruit capable men and women for the job.
As far as the weight of a trigger is concerned, be it 3.5lbs, 5lbs, 12lbs or 100lbs if nothing pulls the trigger a Glock isn't going to go off. A 12lb does nothing but ensures that officers will struggle to put one round out of 50 on target in a stressful situation. 5lbs is perfectly acceptable and I base that off just a wee bit of experience.
Yes, you do get that with12lb triggers. What you don't get with 12lb triggers is any hope for accuracy, especially under stress.
No chest pounding here, simply stating fact. I was burdened with a 12lb trigger for years. I got that policy changed and proceeded to train more than 2000 police officers, witnessing the benefits and find zero problems with unintentional or accidental discharges.
You are a god among insects.
I bet the medics took her to a qualified trauma center with a police escort, too. Imagine the possible difference in outcome for the Crawfordsville citizen if he had been afforded the same level of care...2 minute 30 second from shot to ambulance. I heard that was unpossible!
Can we preserve this thread for future generations that want to know the definition of an armchair quarterback?
They are showing the bodycam footage of the Lafayette officer shooting the other day, and a statement from their police chief that there was "no negligence or carelessness" involved. However, if you watch the footage, one officer is following the officer-victim out a door with his handgun aimed at her back, and his finger on the trigger.
If you have evidence that AT LEAST two of the four rules were violated, how can you claim that there was no negligence?
I bet the medics took her to a qualified trauma center with a police escort, too. Imagine the possible difference in outcome for the Crawfordsville citizen if he had been afforded the same level of care...