Scared and felt the need to pull my gun

[SWAMPMASTER]

I really like the show and always find something to buy sorry I had to work this one

 

[Yamaha]

I always worry about knife vendors at these shows.....glad to hear you were prepared, and upset to hear nothing was done....I don't care if the perp uses "What if", a threat is a threat....period. IDK know the laws well, but that threat plus a weapon could constitute the right to defend yourself, I agree with Josh's post... btw, + rep

 

[IndySSD]

Wow, sorry to hear about this KL, Glad you and Brad are OK. Sounds like Cru hit the nail on the head with this one, just some moron whackjob.

Also sounds like you guys came to the correct conclusion about future appearances at that show.

I'm just curious how many INGO advertisers usually patronize that show and how the promoter might change his policy if several of them withdrew their names from his shows on principle?

I say when a business does something jacked up, hit em in the wallet, where it hurts the most.

Sorry you had to go through this Knifelady. You always seem like such a sweet person on the forums.

Here is one person who will never go to the Tipton Gun and Knife Show.

Yep, She and Brad are VERY nice people in person. Count me in the "I'll not be going to the Tipton G&K show" boat. for that matter, I'd be curious to know the promoters name/info and what other events he puts on so that I can avoid their other events.

 

[MrsGungho]

Aren't there police at the show?

Not every show has police presence. Some locals demand it, some shows are big enough they need it.

I have learned a lot from this thread, what to do, what not to do. In the end our lady went home at the end of the day and she wasn't hurt.

Brad you guys made the right decision and thank you for sharing it with all so we can make our own decision on his shows, not just Tipton. I have to say I haven't done any for awhile, now I don't know if I will.

 

[4sarge]

You did the right thing!

The promoter definitely should of banned this mentally ill person and also should of contacted the police so they could have put this on his record. (possibly)

BIG -1 for the Door Guy and the Event Promoter. You walked away physically unscathed with some mental anguish. IMO the least done was to escort him from the show post haste. Be Prepared, Be Observant, Take Action but this very well was a 1 time event. You never know what thoughts ramble thru some unhinged persons mind

Stay Safe

 

[Knife Lady]

Not every show has police presence. Some locals demand it, some shows are big enough they need it.

I have learned a lot from this thread, what to do, what not to do. In the end our lady went home at the end of the day and she wasn't hurt.

Brad you guys made the right decision and thank you for sharing it with all so we can make our own decision on his shows, not just Tipton. I have to say I haven't done any for awhile, now I don't know if I will.

This is not how I wanted all of this to end as to us not doing the Tipton shows again. I just feel that the promoter did not do his job correctly and let this guy get off scott free. The guy changed his whole demeanor after the promoter and Brad showed up. He wasnt acting all crazy and he didnt have a knife in his hand either at that point. I didnt want the show to suffer over this that is why I did not mention at the beginning which show it was. There are a lot of nice vendors there but they will make up their own mind on supporting that show or not. Yes I am safe but you know this could happen at any show anytime to anyone.

 

[sclark]

Knife Lady, I'm so sorry to hear this happened to you. Glad everything turned out good but you definitely did the right thing. Always listen to your instinct!

 

[KokomoDave]

Greg is extremely wishy-washy and I would've dialed 911 when nothing was done...

 

[HeftyLefty39]

escorted out...and warned that if he was found doing this again he'd be arrested and never be able to attend a gun/knife show ever again!

 

[hotfarmboy1]

I'm sorry to hear this happend to you KL. I'm glad you are ok and made it out safely. I think you handled it well. I do agree with alot of the above that he should of been escorted out and banned from the show. But since the promoter didn't do anything about it. I'm one of the people that are also going to say that I won't go to the Tipton show anymore either. Sad part is that's one of the first shows I started going to and have always enjoyed it for the most part. But now I'll just stick to the 1500 and Alexandria. Or maybe other local ones that come around.

 

[Caleb]

I only go to the 1500 anyways, but that's ok

 

[Expat]

Glad you are safe. Hopefully the door guy was just backing to be in a better position to draw if need be. The portion that Joe W. quoted really stood out to me. When he challenged you to draw and he would stick you first escalated it way past some guy being an ass IMO.

 

[Disposable Heart]

Glad you are okay! Whew, tough call!

Let's learn something from this!

To Shay and some others on the board: Given the "dangerous-ness" of a knife, what alternatives are available for us in regards to closed off or restricted areas, where firearms might be a liability, rather than an asset for us. Another knife? Barehanded to allow for maximum grappling? I understand that they should back up and deploy gun if capable (to keep them from cutting us or messing us up anymore than required), but what if not, such as the tight quarters of a gunshow booth, or in other areas that we can be jumped in?

 

[Knife Lady]

Like they say hindsight is 20/20. Would I have handled the situation differently, yes of course ,now, after the fact. I have learned a great deal from this wierd experience. I thought I was in a safe environment and had my guard down. I appreciate everyones support on this and all the good suggestions or advice and it has been well noted beleive me. I know now my guard will never be down no matter where I am or what I am doing and how easily something like this can happen. I am usually pretty aware of my surroundings but at a gun show was the last place I thought I would be threatend. The hard part for me to accept is that nothing was done to this guy and I am partcially to blame for that as well. I listened to the promoter and I let him handle it. I also think the promoter thinks I over reacted to this guy. The promoter didnt see how this guy was with the knife in his hand and the looks on his face. Once all the guys showed up he wasnt the same guy. I hope this promoter has learned something from all of this too. It just cost him a vendor which is a lot more than that guy's $5 to get in. He also lost all respect I had for him.

 

[starbreather]

What kind of jack @#$, goes to a show and acts like a fool. I would have to say that you definately encountered one. I would have to agree with the above statements of he should have been escorted directly of the site and local authorities should have been notified. I think geeting to your weapon was a great idea and more space was a brilliant idea. It sounds like to me you visit/frequent gun shows regularly anything like this ever happen before to you or other sellers?

 

[skyscout]

I certainly would say that you held your own, however from experience I will say that whenever the hair on the back of your neck goes "vertical" you've got to be ready and willing to do whatever to protect yourself and other innocents.

 

[MrsGungho]

This is not how I wanted all of this to end as to us not doing the Tipton shows again. I just feel that the promoter did not do his job correctly and let this guy get off scott free. The guy changed his whole demeanor after the promoter and Brad showed up. He wasnt acting all crazy and he didnt have a knife in his hand either at that point. I didnt want the show to suffer over this that is why I did not mention at the beginning which show it was. There are a lot of nice vendors there but they will make up their own mind on supporting that show or not. Yes I am safe but you know this could happen at any show anytime to anyone.

He didn't do his job right, he may or may not have anything like this ever happen again. His track record is out now though. He won't do anything if it happens again. We are asked to disarm, we are asked to let them handle problems and they let problems walk in and out the door. He needed to be outed.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Knife Lady - I think you did fine. As others have said, you came out of it physically unscathed. If you feel your life is threatened, you have every right to defend it. I think in this case, any reasonable person on a jury would agree, especially since you had witnesses to his behavior.

If a gun isn't allowed, there are still options: pepper spray, taser, baton, hot scalding coffee.

If it were me selling knives, I'd also build some display cases for knives. Then you are in control of the knives. If someone crazy looking asks for one, you could refuse them.

 

[Bendrx]

Guns are comforting, even when there is one pointed at your head and you know you could never deploy yours in time. I'll take a gun on my hip I can't even access over all the police in the city any day. One jumps when I say to, the other can't manage show up within 5 minutes while you're following said gunman after incident.

 

[femurphy77]

Sounds like a taser might be a good response in this situation, your witness will back you up that the guy was threatening. He moved around the tables to where he was an imminent threat posturing in a threatening manner, light his donkey up!!! Of course as the current is coursing thru his body you tell him that this is your response to threats of violence, he wouldn't want to see how you react to violence itself. Then give him an extra shot in the hopes that he doesn't breed after this encounter.