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    How to keep your data safe from attackers.

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    Ha! Seagate used to be pretty reliable.
     

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    Ha! Seagate used to be pretty reliable.

    I can remember back in the day when Western Digital had to replace a few batches of hard drives due to contamination. Filters in the clean room were compromised for something similar. Had a ton of drives that Dell had to replace where I worked. All kinds of fun. I can't remember any of the drive manufacturers who have been free of problems of some sort or another through the years.
     

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    From NYT's Nicole Perlroth on Twitter.

    Nicole Perlroth said:
    It's not an Intel problem but an entire chipmaker design problem that affects virtually all processors on the market. The critical flaw allows attackers to dump the entire memory contents off of a machine/mobile device/PC/cloud server/etc.

    Two serious threats. The first is isolated to Intel chips, dubbed "meltdown", and affects virtually all Intel microprocessors. The patch, called KAISER, will slow performance speeds by as much as 30%.

    The second issue is a fundamental flaw in processor design approach, dubbed Spectre, which is harder to exploit but affects nearly all processors on the market, and has no fix.

    Spectre will require a complete re-architecture of the way processors are designed and the threats posed will be with us for an entire hardware lifecycle, likely the next decade.

    The basic issue is the age old security dilemma: Speed vs Security. For the past decade, processors were designed to gain every performance advantage. In the process, chipmakers failed to ask basic questions about whether their design was secure.

    Meltdown and Spectre show that it is possible for attackers to exploit these design flaws to access the entire memory contents of a machine. The most visceral attack scenario is an attacker who rents 5 minutes of time from an Amazon/Google/Microsoft cloud server and steals data from other customers renting space on that same Amazon/Google/Microsoft cloud server, then marches onto another cloud server to repeat the attack, stealing untold volumes of data (SSL keys, passwords, logins, files etc) in the process..

    Meltdown can be exploited by any script kiddie with attack code. Spectre is harder to exploit, but nearly impossible to fix, short of shipping out new processors/hardware. The economic implications are not clear, but these are serious threats and chipmakers like Intel will have to do a full recall-- unclear if there's even manufacturing capacity for this-- OR customers will have to wait for secure processors to reach the market, and do their own risk analysis as to whether they need to swap out all affected hardware.

    Intel is not surprisingly trying to downplay the threat of these attacks, but proof-of-concept attacks are already popping up online today, and the timeline for a full rollout of the patch is not clear. And that's just for the Meltdown threat. Spectre affects AMD and ARM too. But judging by stock moves today (Intel down, AMD up), investors didn't know that, taken together, Spectre and Meltdown affect all modern microprocessors
     
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